After just few hours working on IDEX option for Ashtar K and Ashtar M, I thought to try myself on doing IDEX on the very delicate Y carriage on Ashtar D – and after an hour roughly I realized, perhaps it is doable.
The main idea is to reuse the NEMA17 shaft as axis for the idler of the 2nd belt, and use 3mm diameter shaft with 5-10mm length as extension, and stabilize the extension in the idler itself likely the shaft seems long enough by itself – the most space saving option:
Reusing NEMA 17 shaft as axis for idler
Reusing NEMA 17 shaft as axis for idler (see through)
If possible, rotate entire X motor mount / carriage and mount it on the other X side.
Draft
I had to color the belts and V modules, as I otherwise get confused while fine-tuning the design within such narrow margins:
X1/E1 in green
X2/E2 in red
I just love symmetry! I just love symmetry!
Gallery
Issues to Resolve
X motor-mount isn’t fully Y symmetric yet, it’s off by a few mm; needs some further fine-tuning until X2 motor-mount mounting holes align with V module, resolved
V module belt mount for X2 needs be adapted, as I can’t mirror it as that “back” mirrored is the “front” side where the printhead is mounted and occupied already, a new piece is required which mounts within the V module
After the Core XY implementation of Ashtar C I pondered on changing the kinematic to a more classic approach to separate X and Y axis motors, but otherwise keep the setup and frame, hence Ashtar D:
Ashtar D: classic independent XY kinematic: head XY, bed Z setup, with 500mm 2020 alu profiles
Draft
X motor mount with Y carriage
X carriage with hotend and X motor mount
X carriage with hotend and X motor mount
Y motor mount
Y carriage and Y motor with shaft extender
Y motor with shaft extender
Again using 500mm alu profiles, utilizing the frame itself as rails:
1 V-slot beam for X axis with V-carriage/module (triangle shaped carriage) as X carriage with hotend
2 V-slot beams for Y axis, 2 V-carriages/modules with the X beams on it
using classic V wheels
14 T-slot beams for the rest of the frame
Z bed: white 7.3mm thick Delrin wheels on T-slots
T-Slot 2020
V-Slot 2020
V wheel
V modules with different kind of wheels.
The target is again a 400x400mm printbed, probably 380x400x380mm build volume alike with Ashtar C (Core XY), perhaps a bit less X-wise due the more complex pieces to mount the X motor and pulleys.
More high resolution renderings:
Ashtar D: top view
Ashtar D: Closeup X carriage with hotend and Y carriage
Ashtar D: tilted top vew
Ashtar D: Cubic Frame, Head XY, Bed Z
The project page on Ashtar D summarizes the current state of the project.
2021/01/08: starting with details of Y belt/pulley (non-)printable parts
2020/12/28: beautifying X & Y motor and pulley mounts with rcube(), rcylinder() and chainhull()
2020/12/25: starting with some basic parametric enclosure, refining some details
2020/12/24: X & Y motor mounts as well X & Y pulley mounts done
2020/12/23: starting with Ashtar C frame and transforming it to classic X/Y head, X/Y motor mounts and pulleys mounts missing
Introduction
After the Core XY of Ashtar C I thought to convert it to a more classic kinematic X/Y head with two dedicated NEMA17 motors for each axis – independent XY. Mostly using the same frame setup with 500mm alu extrusions, same V-carriages/modules as before, but reposition both motors to dedicate for X and Y axis now. The main goal is to achieve 400x400mm print area with 500mm alu extrusions.
Ashtar D (Classic XY)
X motor & Y motor
no XY frame tension
shorter belts
one moving motor (Y-wise)
Ashtar C (Core XY)
Core XY with motor A & B
XY frame tension
long belts
no moving motors
Draft
Bare without mounts
X = max, Y = 0
X = max, Y = max
With X & Y motor mounts and X & Y pulley mounts
Including 3 Bowden extruders and LCD controller
3 Bowden extruders and LCD controller
Parametric enclosure for Ashtar D, moving LCD controller in front bottom
After the rough design was OK, with X = 0 .. max and Y = 0 .. max and maintaining max of printable area, I went ahead and did basic Y motor mount and X motor mount, and I was designing the pieces in OpenSCAD, the ad_[xy]mount(type="motor" or "pulley") and I changed the 42×42 interface for NEMA17 to pulley holder which made it quite a fast design – so motor-side and pulley-side are very similar made with the same OpenSCAD module:
Y Motor Mount
ad_ymount(type=”pulley”) in the front, and ad_ymount(type=”motor”) in the back
At Y = max + Y margin (beyond print bed, but not yet touching anything else):
At Y = max+ Y margin
Back view
Top view
X Motor Mount
Exploring the X & Y minimum, how X carriage can as close as possible with the part cooler attached:
At X = -12, Y = 0
At X = -12, Y = 0
At X = -12, Y = -10
X & Y Motors / Axis
Ashtar D: Y carriage with X motor mount and X pulley (on the other side) Y motor mount and shaft extender and Y pulley
Ashtar D: Y pulley mount and X pulley mount on Y carriage (in the front)
Specifications
Build Volume: ~380 x 400 x 380mm (not yet finalized)
Frame: 17x 500mm 2020 alu profiles
14x 500mm 2020 T-slot alu profiles
3x 500mm 2020 V-slot alu profiles
T-Slot 2020
V-Slot 2020
V wheel
Issues to Resolve
mounting X motor, resolved
mounting X pulleys, done
mounting Y motor, resolved
mounting Y pulleys, done
using M6 or M5 smooth or threaded rod to extend Y motor shaft
Y belt mount to carriage, done
positioning: extruders, controller, power-supply (like Ashtar C)
positioning: X, Y and Z end-switches
tuning toward 400x400x400mm build volume with 500mm 2020 alu profiles
build printer
print tests
release parts
release code
Gallery
Classic XY vs Core XY
Compared to Ashtar C Core XY the Ashtar D is less elegant, more complex parts but better setup using the rather thin 2020 alu profiles for such a big build volume.
In order to provide Dual Independent Extrusion (IDEX) a 2nd belt and motor is required, yet, the Y carriage is quite delicate in this current setup but after some pondering I think I came up with an elegant solution: the main idea is to utilize the NEMA 17 shaft as axis for 2nd belt idler:
Reusing NEMA 17 shaft as axis for idler
Reusing NEMA 17 shaft as axis for idler (see through)
and then rotate the same Y carriage on the other side:
Since the entire Ashtar D design is still just a draft, this IDEX setup is also very experimental in nature and only actual build will tell if it’s feasible.
Ashtar D
Ashtar D IDEX
Ashtar D
Ashtar D IDEX
Gallery
Z Axis & Motors
It has been tested successfully with Ashtar C, so I use the same setup again:
Ashtar C/D: Z Axis / Motor
Ashtar C/D: Z motor mount
Ashtar C/D: Z motor and Z axis
Parts
Printable Parts
1x ad_xmount-type=motor
1x ad_xmount-type=pulley
1x ad_ymount-type=motor
1x ad_ymount-type=pulley
1x ad_ypulley-left
1x ad_ypulley-right
Note: the new parts aren’t released yet until I used them in a test setup.
Non-Printable Parts
2x 625ZZ bearings ID=5mm
2x for 1x ad_ymount-type=pulley
12x 629ZZ bearings ID=6mm
8x for 4x Z thread holder (2x bottom)
4x for 4x Z thread holder (top)
nx pulleys (dimension not yet determined)
2x (5mm hole) for 2x Z motors
1x (5mm hole) for 1x X motor
2x (5mm hole) for 1x Y motor, 1x ad_ymount-type=pulley
4x (6mm hole) for Z threaded rods
nx idlers (with 3 or 5mm hole)
2x (3mm hole) for 1x ad_ypulley-left, 1x ad_ypulley-right
~520 mm M5 smooth or threaded rod (Y shaft extension)
Enclosure
Developing some enclosure, either attach to the Z beams – as one side is free to fasten pieces and use acrylic sheets – or enclose entire frame, like with
With the enclosure the display must be reachable, and therefore likely be on the front and longer wires from the controller board, which most likely resides on the back right side as with Ashtar C.
Ultimaker S5
Makerbot Replicator
Creality CR5
Creality Ender 6
Ashtar D (Classic XY)
Build Volume: 380 x 400 x 380mm (57.7Kcm3 / 57.7L) = 100%
Device Dimension: 590 x 650 x 620mm (237Kcm3 / 237L)
Build vs Device Volume: 4.11
Creality CR5
Build Volume: 300 x 225 x 380mm (25.6Kcm3 / 25.6L) = 44%
Device Dimension: 530 x 487 x 621mm (160Kcm3 / 160L)
Build vs Device Volume: 6.25
Ultimaker S5
Build Volume: 320 x 240 x 300mm (23.0Kcm3 / 23L) = 40%
Device Dimension: 495 x 585 x 780mm (225Kcm3 / 225L)
Build vs Device Volume: 9.78
Creality Ender 6
Build Volume: 250 x 250 x 400mm (25.0kcm3 / 25L) = 43%
Device Dimension: 495 x 495 x 650mm (159Kcm3 / 159L)
Build vs Device Volume: 6.36
Ashtar D and Ultimaker S5 device volumes are nearly the same, 237Kcm3 vs 225Kcm3, but Ashtar D would print more than the double of the volume – so it would be volume-wise more efficient. Creality CR5 and Creality Ender 6 are more volume efficient than the Ultimaker S5, but not as good Ashtar D. Let’s see if I can keep this advantage for the final implementation.
References
Ultimaker S5: different XY head design using smooth rods, head: XY, bed: Z, build volume: 330 x 240 x 300mm, swapable hotends/printcores; priced at EUR/USD 6,500+ (2020/12)
Makerbot Replicator: head: XY, bed: Z, build volume: 295 x 195 x 165mm, priced EUR/USD 2,400 (2020/12)
Creality CR5: blatant copy of Ultimaker 2, S3 & S5 case design, head: XY, bed: Z, build volume: 300 x 225 x 380mm, priced EUR/USD 1,500 (2020/12)
